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With the exception of the LA CA casinos and the Venetian who manufacture their shoes Cheat , I don't know if it is true about the shuffle master. In fact, I would bet size that the quality of their shuffle is better than some of the hand dealt baccarat shoes I have played. If you don't understand the true dynamic of house advantage and how casinos make money, don't start spreading lies about the industry. To R19 and Big Mac, You said "How in your right mind some of you think baccarat players couldn't identify this straight away is very interesting" Because most baccarat players are naive. The less time the casino wastes on shuffling, the more they keep you playing a negative expectation game, the more money they make.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} If you want to comment about that case, post in one of those threads, not here. None of the advantaged play techniques he and his partner did are allowed ever. The reason given by the casinos when they introduced shuffle machines was to decrease the time it takes to shuffle cards. Here are a few things to think about: The games that I have played it seems that the shuffle master is used in the "No-touch" games while a fresh deck of pre-shuffled cards PSC are used in the touch games. If the most money is bet on the Player side they will receive the 9 allowing that side to win. It should be right there in front of you. If there was even a scintilla of an advantage that the casinos can use legally wouldn't all use it? This is not footage from real casinos as far as I recall. Wouldn't it be reversed? What the electronic shoe and the shuffle master combined the casino is able to decide the outcome of every single hand. I haven't been here for a while because I don't like arguing with people, however I think the general public or gambler if you will needs to know this information. Discussions in this section are assumed to be EV- as they are outside of the Advantage Play section. What is to say any 8 decks are not stacked or rigged. Last edited: May 20, And Xander, just quit posting about baccarat because you claim that you have some inside super secret advantaged way to play baccarat when it is clear that you do not play at all. Mcvince , May 22, Joined: Dec 6, Likes: 13 Location: California. Fresh cards always, and close monitoring of everything. When a high first card for Player was identified, the players would load up on Player due to the theoretical first card advantage. Each casino does is different in AC. In reality, it's about their profits and nothing else. That is exactly what they do. It set up perfectly just I called it to happen, but got edged out by the other side. My houses have full card reading built into the baccarat shoe and they area all connected throughout the house, BUT there is no system inside the baccarat shoe that is capable of switching the order of cards. Post it up, but at face value, I would not play with systems like those. R19 , May 20, Over at the smart guys forum there is a return discussion on a house rigging up baccarat. That is not same team. That is another reason why your smart guy forum rocks so much. Although, Willy Allison is noting this incident, he specifically notes that it was maintenance staff for the house that was colluding with players to get an advantage by learning the first card for Player before bets were placed. This Technology cannot be beat and it takes cheating to a whole new level. Aren't we all in this together? I think Wewin is speaking about systems like this which I have never heard of a real house using: Youtube: Baccarat Poker Cheating Shoe Willy Allison just makes some vague statement about it being used in real house play with zero reference. And the whole time surveillance, other dealers floor management, and executive management wouldn't notice? It is falsely accusing major gaming organizations of cheating and spitting on what they do. The problem comes when a certified pre-shuffled shoe is actually not randomly shuffled. Have a gambling question? Youtube: Baccarat Poker Cheating Shoe Willy Allison just makes some vague statement about it being used in real house play with zero reference. In other words the electronic shoe is capable of dealing the card underneath to allow the casino to have an unbeatable advantage. The touch games have PSC that are thrown onto the table and wash shuffled for two minutes, then hand shuffled. I wouldn't really want to be THAT GUY, but if there is a house or house that has a baccarat shoe system that is clearly capable of rigging as Wewin is claiming, then they might as well be named. Allow me to opine: The shuffle is the shuffle. I would prefer to play at houses that show the full process on the casino floor, and do. Nobody is going to play a rigged game. Wouldn't they want the shuffle master in the higher unit games? When you take into account the cut and burn card, it is anyone's guess. Ask Questions Non-AP. Post it here and our gambling experts will answer it! If anyone knows of a house where the full process from cards out of the box to first live baccarat hand is not being shown to players, please let us know. Here is a post from DJTeddyBear at another popular forum: March 5th, at AM It is common for casinos to use certified pre-shuffled shoes at the Baccarat tables. Part of the reason is, at the high limit tables, players are allowed and sometimes encouraged, to handle and mutilate cards on a losing hand. They accomplish this by using the shuffle master to position the cards and using the electronic shoe push the cards out to the side that is favorable for the casino to make the most amount of money on that particular hand. Welcome to the 1 Gambling Community with the best minds across the entire gambling spectrum. Players play with LVS because Any baccarat player that has even a little seat time should be able to arrive at that view. I have heard plenty of times how cards can be manipulated inside the shuffle machine and to a point, it may be true. For the most part, the "No-touch" NT games are the lower minimums while the higher minimums are for the touch games. Mcvince , May 21, R19 , May 22, The last time I played at the Venetian in February, they opened the box burned one card and started dealing. Trainer likes this. If you all what to hand walk a baccarat shoe from manufacturer, through an entire shuffle and cut process to the shoe, good luck. That is not together. If one does a search for 'baccarat shoe' on the internet, one can see many shoe systems that look like there is a lot of housing between the where the whole shoe is stored and the card exit. Last edited: May 22, Big Mac, you specifically stayed that houses are cheating when they are using what is referred to as certified pre- shuffled baccarat shoes. I get it now. Maintenance and a dealer s were working with players in a team. Sir Anyone Anyone , May 20, Yes, Dr Sir Anyone Anyone. If a house has a rigged setup like this, they would have to be use it selectively, BUT you should be able to notice the setup. Any quality baccarat offering will not involve anything like this as what Wewin might as well be video baccarat where the house can monitor all bets placed and then based on that switch one or more cards within the baccarat shoe system to affect the outcome. With the exception of the cut card. Now are any of these used in actual play at a house? It may. That is still their motto. That being the case, it's easier to purchase cheap cards that are pre-shuffled. I spent several minutes last night talking about what I saw with a dealer at an empty table and how I would play it and what I was expecting. Did you personally escort them from the manufacturer to the table? Apparently what Wewin has presented so far is not too clear to some, but he is claiming that a house s are using the Shuffle Master to shuffle, then most likely a cut and burn card procedure THEN placement into a a larger baccarat shoe system that has card reading capability AND the system in place to switch cards. How in your right mind some of you think baccarat players couldn't identify this straight away is very interesting. That's the game. Just because we pull an natural 8 or 9 doesn't lock a win, and everyone can not count how many key hands that were that close, right? Furthermore, many houses are using the old school crystal clear baccarat shoe. Think about it. Regarding the shuffle machine. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Discussion in ' Baccarat Forum ' started by R19 , May 20, Log in or Sign up. They don't have a clue of what they are doing and don't keep a scorecard, and that's why most lose. But I have not run across it. They are asses that follow the masses. Roubacc , May 22, What would be the motive for me giving you false information? Baccarat is so deep, it certainly feels like things are full on against if they are going that way.